gwae
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Post by gwae on Jan 29, 2019 6:38:48 GMT -5
I believe it's not useless... I generally add both trainings to castles regardless, in medieval period a huge chunk of professional soldiers are paid mercenarys. In PW the mercenary class is shit compared to sergeants and knights, in reality this was not the case. I think freedom to be either crossbow or archer is a good thing, travelling for bolts or stocking up your inventory for bolts is a good thing. Just my thoughts.
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Post by Hancock on Jan 29, 2019 15:50:12 GMT -5
This is going to sound weird but I actually disagree with the idea. If you think about it no matter who you are Archer is better vs pubs more than crossbow is on a consistent basis; So if you give the tools for every castle to have archer it would really just make it border line impossible for any type of pub war to win vs that clan unless its like 30 vs 12, and I think it would just cause a big unbalance for a lot of castle's because Archer IMO is just better than crossbow on average. Than the argument could be made archers will just run out of arrows in a castle which is a fair point but if the faction your fighting has archers in theory you just pick up an arrow and reset your bodkin arrows and you will be able to use shoot forever. And for people who said archers suck on crossbow castles thats not entirely true, steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955228754169280340/0DED8FF02B357DE2F12EDA982F4C61202A7FD989/ Damascus/Pordiset for example is a crossbow castle we can all agree; The front gate is able to be shot at from 2 points that allow you to hit them in the back so if you give that castle, Archers which is a higher fire rate all that happens is it makes that front gate 10x stronger because they can't shield it basically. plays.tv/s/M41wJsadvV3Q Like imagine if we had 3 archers instead of the 2 crossbows here that gate would never go down.
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Vic Tide
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Post by Vic Tide on Jan 29, 2019 17:03:26 GMT -5
Hancock, did you not read what I said? I didnt say change stocks at all or make the castles change from being both from one or the other.If you want to be crossbow in an archer castle, you have to do extra work like filling a war cart of arrows at another castle and transporting that. Shouldn't you be rewarded for having to do more work in this game? Is that not the point of having one training or another?
Also, arent we free to choose whatever class we want to go? What kind of map maker forces people to go archer or crossbow? I am vehemently against someone removing Outlaw Archer on any map, and this is similar because it completely beheads my playstyle entirely. Boo hoo, you may say. Fuck you if you do. I remember this conversation happening on a forum back in the day when we decided Sergeants should be added to every castle with Men at Arms and not have people be forced to choose between them. The bias against archers in this community is especially cancerous.
If you (Not just Hancock, anyone reading this) don't see the benefits in having the castles have *training* from xbow and archer then you are the blindest mice in the nest.
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Post by Hancock on Jan 29, 2019 18:33:22 GMT -5
I read what you said and i never mentioned stocks at all. Im talking from a balance perspective it would initially be unbalanced and i don't think it would be good from a balance perspective trust me I want to play archer in every castle as well but It just wouldn't be balanced and it would create a lot of cancer from the ranged community more than their already is for melee players. So i read what you said i never mentioned stocks because having 0 stocks is irrelevant if you can find 1 bow and 1 arrow your good forever in theory. And its not bias i play archer if anything I want them to be the strongest thing ever but i just don't see it being really balanced.
-Edit let me make this clear im against the idea but i also wouldn't care if it got implemented but I think it would take some reworking of certain maps and etc to make it work.
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Post by daemon on Jan 30, 2019 9:49:51 GMT -5
Vic tide snitching π rat me and the boys will deal with you, I agree with Simon itβs a waste of time and imbalances said castles
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