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Post by Yotz on Oct 15, 2018 20:47:09 GMT -5
Many, many have it seems. Who knows the whole truth yet though?
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Post by tavisthewhite on Oct 16, 2018 23:33:21 GMT -5
servers up Thanksgiving after Clarky's fatass vomits up the server he ate a few months ago.
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Post by St. Bernard of Clairvaux on Oct 17, 2018 3:27:47 GMT -5
will the banks be reset or will we still have the money we had?
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Post by Roy on Oct 17, 2018 6:45:21 GMT -5
I would like them to be reset, but since a lot of people are opposed to resets, as well as a majority of Blackfyres, I'll be opposed to it when Clarky decides.
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Post by Pablo the Old on Oct 17, 2018 18:54:40 GMT -5
^ still the same cuck as ever
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Post by Aras on Oct 22, 2018 6:49:11 GMT -5
Keep the money and everything else unless people got like 20 mil. I think everyone should at least keep a million or 2 so we dont spend the first month serfing and etc.
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Post by Roy on Oct 22, 2018 10:21:22 GMT -5
You're only saying that because there's nobody in your clan that has 20 mil. Everyone's bank should either revert or nobodys should. This isn't the fucking democratic socialist primary where only the rich get punished.
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Post by Yotz on Oct 22, 2018 13:37:56 GMT -5
I personally say reset the banks to 100k for each person. In my opinion it wont hurt people to serf a little to get the ultra amount of money they usually have and never use lol. Plus, ASSUMING mind you Clarky still gives money to clans, most people won't have to worry anyways. This is just my opinion though.
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Post by Roy on Oct 22, 2018 13:53:04 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't mind Clarky giving out some clan funds, but that's a completely separate issue. The large majority of people don't want to have to rework for the fortunes they've earned. To say that there is a correlation between how much is in somebody's bank and how often they serf is pretty ignorant seeing as serfing needs to be done in order to get sufficient equipment to go to war. The clans, or at least mine, are going to get the daily jobs needed in order to maintain a faction, regardless of how much is in our banks. Seeing as the clans are the only thing that matter on the server and take up 70-80% of the playerbase, this sufficiently fulfils your requirement of having people serf. The only thing that removing people's money would do is unnecessarily piss them off and make more players leave the mod. That's exactly what we need. The economy of PK is fucked regardless of how much people have, seeing as things are so easily available, there can never be a sustainable economy people will always be rich regardless. One day of serfing can effectively have you equipped for the week, and if you're smart about it, that could be self-sustaining, if you're good at selling enemy gear and being a jew. This isn't even taking into account the broken gold mining mechanic. The economy can't be fixed without seriously changing the mod which I do not believe anybody is in favour of. I'm certainly not. The only way to have people serf is for clans to dominate the server and thus require a higher amount of weaponry that is in stock (most things are 25 at this point, seeing as clans range from 20-50 people, this is peanuts and hours of serfing will be required in order to properly outfit such an army). You can say that the pubs will stock, but except for the occasional master smith that plays for half an hour, everything in the pleb town like Richfield or Iron Abbey is always out of stock after a few hours and doesn't change. You're lucky if there's even a cart horse in stock. At this point plebs are only people who have never played the mod before and are soon to join a clan or have no interest in following orders from clans and just want to be a naked greatsword hero and rambo. In this respect, the plebs are useless.
It's also important to keep in mind that people are hording jews and they will continue to serf on their own volition even if they have surpluses in the bank Take Mercer for example, he goes gold mining every night and he has millions.
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Post by midnight on Oct 22, 2018 20:21:04 GMT -5
Can I get a tl;dr?
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Post by Yotz on Oct 22, 2018 21:41:32 GMT -5
TLDR: The economy of PW is fucked unless some major changes happen. Resetting the banks would do nothing besides piss people off. The only people who truly serf and smith are people in clans that do so, so that the fighters have the gear they need. Take richfield a pub faction for example, it's always out of stock because only pubs really use it.
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Post by midnight on Oct 26, 2018 10:36:22 GMT -5
TLDR: The economy of PW is fucked unless some major changes happen. Resetting the banks would do nothing besides piss people off. The only people who truly serf and smith are people in clans that do so, so that the fighters have the gear they need. Take richfield a pub faction for example, it's always out of stock because only pubs really use it. Reset the economy anyway. People don't like it then they can piss off. Not like anyone else is gonna put up a server anytime soon lmao.
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Post by Roy on Oct 26, 2018 13:02:45 GMT -5
TLDR: The economy of PW is fucked unless some major changes happen. Resetting the banks would do nothing besides piss people off. The only people who truly serf and smith are people in clans that do so, so that the fighters have the gear they need. Take richfield a pub faction for example, it's always out of stock because only pubs really use it. Reset the economy anyway. People don't like it then they can piss off. Not like anyone else is gonna put up a server anytime soon lmao. Yes, but why?
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Post by Yotz on Oct 26, 2018 13:05:46 GMT -5
Reset the economy anyway. People don't like it then they can piss off. Not like anyone else is gonna put up a server anytime soon lmao. Yes, but why? Actually this. Don't get me wrong when I agree with Roy here either, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be reset. I'm saying that if it's reset, nothing huge will change. If it's not reset, also nothing huge will change. At most the first bit might be a bit more tame without the huge banks, but soon enough it'll just get back to everyone playing the same, just watching the banks pile up more again haha. So tldr: I'm neutral on this.
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Post by midnight on Oct 26, 2018 17:52:00 GMT -5
People are just lazy and expect things handed to them on a silver platter. :shrug:
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