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Post by destroyer on Dec 1, 2018 23:05:41 GMT -5
ur retarded if u think casual players are not pushed away by the toxicity, specifically the use of the N word. even fuckin pixelated apollo said he was turned away from the live NA PW servers and decided to host his own private events. Imagine if we had a youtuber with 500k subs start playing PW, itd be huge for the community and could have the population skyrocket. ( youtu.be/T81I3pv0oWc?t=66 you can see here him saying it for those who dont believe me.) contrary to what many might think but having the N word used in every second sentence is most definitely not a common thing and doesnt give off the impression as the community being a good place. Bruh if I had pixelated apollo playing on NA infinity I would deadass stop playing on NA infinity. I can't stand playing with his 9 year old minions that flood chat with cringy ass shit.
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Post by Taters on Dec 1, 2018 23:55:58 GMT -5
ur retarded if u think casual players are not pushed away by the toxicity, specifically the use of the N word. even fuckin pixelated apollo said he was turned away from the live NA PW servers and decided to host his own private events. Imagine if we had a youtuber with 500k subs start playing PW, itd be huge for the community and could have the population skyrocket. ( youtu.be/T81I3pv0oWc?t=66 you can see here him saying it for those who dont believe me.) contrary to what many might think but having the N word used in every second sentence is most definitely not a common thing and doesnt give off the impression as the community being a good place. Bruh if I had pixelated apollo playing on NA infinity I would deadass stop playing on NA infinity. I can't stand playing with his 9 year old minions that flood chat with cringy ass shit. More players means more levies to enslave and abuse...this can only be a good thing
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Post by Matthew on Dec 2, 2018 0:12:31 GMT -5
Bruh if I had pixelated apollo playing on NA infinity I would deadass stop playing on NA infinity. I can't stand playing with his 9 year old minions that flood chat with cringy ass shit. More players means more levies to enslave and abuse...this can only be a good thing He isn't wrong, the nine year olds would get purged by strict clan policies.
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𝕯𝖚𝖈𝖐𝖎𝖊 𝕿𝖎𝖓𝖆𝖉𝖊𝖑
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Post by 𝕯𝖚𝖈𝖐𝖎𝖊 𝕿𝖎𝖓𝖆𝖉𝖊𝖑 on Dec 2, 2018 0:26:53 GMT -5
The toxicity would not need to be tamed by rules if the game play was stripped away from the features that make it a meta environment. If you make it so more effort is put into attaining gain then people will respect the module more and have a stronger bonded community. Because the consequences have been hindered it supports people being toxic unintentionally. As people need a rush to experience something they resort to being trolls to fill the void of the repetitive cycle due to the fact they are not rewarded for their performance. Will removing the banks immediately cause people to stop being tempted to say the notorious "n word"? Of course not, but over time they will give the community more respect because it will mean more to them than before.
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Post by daemon on Dec 2, 2018 2:14:03 GMT -5
The N word isnt a big deal. Ive been on the game playing pw for 5 years, Not ever have i seen a server ban the word and they had full pop or 150-180 you guys want new people and expect them not to be bullied by bf or what ever big clan there is now which will happen, Boldania for example tinadel pub faction raped them when they played, I just think its silly banning it and cause more harm then good. My opinion on RDM rules are if some1 aims and swings at you they should be able to kill them, Aiming can be trolly or friendly no point on being a douchebag and killing a guy cause he aims at you and you are recording with ur nvida shit.
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Post by Roy on Dec 2, 2018 3:01:38 GMT -5
I don't know what server you've been playing on, but on this one, the pubs have never done anything of note. Perhaps if you consider Tenton's week long thing a "pub group", but to say that the server dynamic is anything like the 2014 times when there were tinadel and glendor factions would just be lying. Again, the last time the pubs didn't get steamrolled by a clan and actually stood a chance against a major clan was the VoG, though even they were more clan than pub. Just look at any video from NA PW posted in 2018. Whether it was the Baratheon/Templar/Tyrell time, or the Normandy/Boldania/Blood Empire time, there wasn't a pleb faction that got more than 20. The only time they did is if a clan got defeated and the scraps go to get another castle to outpoll a pleb faction. Pub factions haven't broken 20 in years.
As for the swinging thing, just have it so that its a recording, a picture could be misleading, but with a recording, its pretty obvious whether or not they were swinging/aiming at you.
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Post by Matthew on Dec 2, 2018 14:46:33 GMT -5
The N word isnt a big deal. Ive been on the game playing pw for 5 years, Not ever have i seen a server ban the word and they had full pop or 150-180 you guys want new people and expect them not to be bullied by bf or what ever big clan there is now which will happen, Boldania for example tinadel pub faction raped them when they played, I just think its silly banning it and cause more harm then good. My opinion on RDM rules are if some1 aims and swings at you they should be able to kill them, Aiming can be trolly or friendly no point on being a douchebag and killing a guy cause he aims at you and you are recording with ur nvida shit. Daemon i know you're just getting back but boldania is the one who pushed for banning the n word lmao.
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Post by Delicious Derek on Dec 2, 2018 16:28:24 GMT -5
as much as i fucking hate to admit it after being one of the people most pissed off about the rules that limit speech, meli is right about the n word stuff. I honestly have not thought about how it could affect new people or youtubers coming to the server and potentially boosting pop.
I like to say whatever i want and have others have the freedom to say whatever they want, but i also don't want this revival to end up like all the others, meaning it's just the same core old players who keep playing for a month or so while a few new players rotate out playing for 1-2 weeks before dying off due to boredom, irl stuff etc. When it's the same people over and over and over and they have been playing for a long time, it really starts to get old and stale because you already know, by and large, the gist of how every day will go. That's been my biggest gripe with NA PW/PK for the past multiple years, the predictability of every day of playing with the same maps, same players, same clans (even if they have different names, they still have the same players) and same layout of the day with 10-20 pop until 8:00 PM when it explodes to 150 for a big cancer war until 10:00 or so and everyone gets off.
Basically, really long way of saying that while i disagree with the whole N word ban in a contextless void, when i look at it as it's harming the chances of new people, or as meli said, a big youtuber like pixelated apollo potentially making a video in the server and blowing up the playerbase.
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Post by nikkle on Dec 2, 2018 16:36:55 GMT -5
The god king has spoken. And also it was me who brought up the YouTuber thing not meli !!!!!
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 2, 2018 17:54:09 GMT -5
as much as i fucking hate to admit it after being one of the people most pissed off about the rules that limit speech, meli is right about the n word stuff. I honestly have not thought about how it could affect new people or youtubers coming to the server and potentially boosting pop. I like to say whatever i want and have others have the freedom to say whatever they want, but i also don't want this revival to end up like all the others, meaning it's just the same core old players who keep playing for a month or so while a few new players rotate out playing for 1-2 weeks before dying off due to boredom, irl stuff etc. When it's the same people over and over and over and they have been playing for a long time, it really starts to get old and stale because you already know, by and large, the gist of how every day will go. That's been my biggest gripe with NA PW/PK for the past multiple years, the predictability of every day of playing with the same maps, same players, same clans (even if they have different names, they still have the same players) and same layout of the day with 10-20 pop until 8:00 PM when it explodes to 150 for a big cancer war until 10:00 or so and everyone gets off. Basically, really long way of saying that while i disagree with the whole N word ban in a contextless void, when i look at it as it's harming the chances of new people, or as meli said, a big youtuber like pixelated apollo potentially making a video in the server and blowing up the playerbase. Blackfyre will make all other clans disband in 2 weeks or less and PK will die again. I can smell it.
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Post by Matthew on Dec 2, 2018 18:14:21 GMT -5
as much as i fucking hate to admit it after being one of the people most pissed off about the rules that limit speech, meli is right about the n word stuff. I honestly have not thought about how it could affect new people or youtubers coming to the server and potentially boosting pop. I like to say whatever i want and have others have the freedom to say whatever they want, but i also don't want this revival to end up like all the others, meaning it's just the same core old players who keep playing for a month or so while a few new players rotate out playing for 1-2 weeks before dying off due to boredom, irl stuff etc. When it's the same people over and over and over and they have been playing for a long time, it really starts to get old and stale because you already know, by and large, the gist of how every day will go. That's been my biggest gripe with NA PW/PK for the past multiple years, the predictability of every day of playing with the same maps, same players, same clans (even if they have different names, they still have the same players) and same layout of the day with 10-20 pop until 8:00 PM when it explodes to 150 for a big cancer war until 10:00 or so and everyone gets off. Basically, really long way of saying that while i disagree with the whole N word ban in a contextless void, when i look at it as it's harming the chances of new people, or as meli said, a big youtuber like pixelated apollo potentially making a video in the server and blowing up the playerbase. This is the first time i've seen derek say something so serious. *Crys* They grow up so fast.
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Post by tavisthewhite on Dec 2, 2018 19:27:57 GMT -5
What do you mean Derek is very smart he just likes to have fun because he's not a shriveled up sexually repressed prune like yourself matthew
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Post by rccedwards on Dec 2, 2018 21:27:19 GMT -5
Big props to the staff if they actually hold true to keeping discrimination out of chat and faction names. Anyone arguing against this rule has no grounds.
To take your side though, I do agree with the exception to outlaws only policy to people walking around with 0 gold in their pockets knowing they can't be touched.
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Post by Delicious Derek on Dec 2, 2018 21:28:48 GMT -5
The god king has spoken. And also it was me who brought up the YouTuber thing not meli !!!!! I'm sorry demonlord nikkle of the dementors of hell please dont spawncamp me in plate!!!!
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Post by aldrik on Dec 2, 2018 22:33:46 GMT -5
Big props to the staff if they actually hold true to keeping discrimination out of chat and faction names. Anyone arguing against this rule has no grounds. To take your side though, I do agree with the exception to outlaws only policy to people walking around with 0 gold in their pockets knowing they can't be touched. I am neither against or for the use of the N word, I just believe it's counterproductive for the admin team to actually push for rules to stop people from saying and or using these words. as much as i fucking hate to admit it after being one of the people most pissed off about the rules that limit speech, meli is right about the n word stuff. I honestly have not thought about how it could affect new people or youtubers coming to the server and potentially boosting pop. I like to say whatever i want and have others have the freedom to say whatever they want, but i also don't want this revival to end up like all the others, meaning it's just the same core old players who keep playing for a month or so while a few new players rotate out playing for 1-2 weeks before dying off due to boredom, irl stuff etc. When it's the same people over and over and over and they have been playing for a long time, it really starts to get old and stale because you already know, by and large, the gist of how every day will go. That's been my biggest gripe with NA PW/PK for the past multiple years, the predictability of every day of playing with the same maps, same players, same clans (even if they have different names, they still have the same players) and same layout of the day with 10-20 pop until 8:00 PM when it explodes to 150 for a big cancer war until 10:00 or so and everyone gets off. Basically, really long way of saying that while i disagree with the whole N word ban in a contextless void, when i look at it as it's harming the chances of new people, or as meli said, a big youtuber like pixelated apollo potentially making a video in the server and blowing up the playerbase. If new players come onto our server I doubt their issue will ever be the free speech fundamentals of the server. My issue with bringing up popular youtubers is that I doubt PixelatedApollo would actually ever play on the server regardless because limiting slurs and what not regardless, the community is still massively toxic and unwelcoming both on NA and EU. I don't know what server you've been playing on, but on this one, the pubs have never done anything of note. Perhaps if you consider Tenton's week long thing a "pub group", but to say that the server dynamic is anything like the 2014 times when there were tinadel and glendor factions would just be lying. Again, the last time the pubs didn't get steamrolled by a clan and actually stood a chance against a major clan was the VoG, though even they were more clan than pub. Just look at any video from NA PW posted in 2018. Whether it was the Baratheon/Templar/Tyrell time, or the Normandy/Boldania/Blood Empire time, there wasn't a pleb faction that got more than 20. The only time they did is if a clan got defeated and the scraps go to get another castle to outpoll a pleb faction. Pub factions haven't broken 20 in years. As for the swinging thing, just have it so that its a recording, a picture could be misleading, but with a recording, its pretty obvious whether or not they were swinging/aiming at you. The pubs have done plenty of note on Infinity, your issue is that you're viewing pubs in a faction sense then the players who make up commonors and outlaws. Most of the time pubs will stick to commonor classes like footman/sergeant(If it's on the map)/MAA(If it's on the map). Earlier this year when the server was running Great Divide/Realm Divided(Honestly forgotten the difference between the two maps) Tinadels would rarely be apart of a bigger clan and for the most part run pub factions. Almost entirely when we did own a faction a majority of the players in it were pubs and we did siege other factions and actually engage in bigger wars. as much as i fucking hate to admit it after being one of the people most pissed off about the rules that limit speech, meli is right about the n word stuff. I honestly have not thought about how it could affect new people or youtubers coming to the server and potentially boosting pop. I like to say whatever i want and have others have the freedom to say whatever they want, but i also don't want this revival to end up like all the others, meaning it's just the same core old players who keep playing for a month or so while a few new players rotate out playing for 1-2 weeks before dying off due to boredom, irl stuff etc. When it's the same people over and over and over and they have been playing for a long time, it really starts to get old and stale because you already know, by and large, the gist of how every day will go. That's been my biggest gripe with NA PW/PK for the past multiple years, the predictability of every day of playing with the same maps, same players, same clans (even if they have different names, they still have the same players) and same layout of the day with 10-20 pop until 8:00 PM when it explodes to 150 for a big cancer war until 10:00 or so and everyone gets off. Basically, really long way of saying that while i disagree with the whole N word ban in a contextless void, when i look at it as it's harming the chances of new people, or as meli said, a big youtuber like pixelated apollo potentially making a video in the server and blowing up the playerbase. Blackfyre will make all other clans disband in 2 weeks or less and PK will die again. I can smell it. Danka Pablo Tinadel
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