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Post by Aras on Dec 3, 2018 10:42:31 GMT -5
Hate to break it to you but you will be punished for being racist. Hate to break it to you, but people with GoT avatars are much like people with Anime avatars. Your opinion doesn't fucking matter. 1. Your comment has nothing to do with this. 2. What you said is even more idiotic considering all the clans are GoT related. 3. You are not defending or countering any points. 4. Be mature, grow balls.
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Post by TheConfederate/Lars on Dec 3, 2018 10:54:46 GMT -5
The racial slurs in global were not a suggestion from Quake, calm your tits and learn the facts.
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Post by Roy on Dec 3, 2018 11:45:15 GMT -5
The problem with people constantly saying N***** was when it was banned. I don't think it could be summed up better. This was a non-problem that only became an issue when people started getting banned over the configuration of 6 letters in t chat. Come on guys. The internet is not a place where you just shit talk people. This rule is here so you respect people like you respect people in real life. The person who people called King Kong because of some stupid freedom of speech is a marine and he does more good to this country than sitting here and calling people names on the internet. Have respect, be mature, and for christ sake dont say the n word? Which internet are you on? Have you been on reddit once in your life? The internet is literally centered around hatred, insults, porn and memes. Those are the four pillars which hold it up and keep it going. Again, what internet have you been on? Some censored Chinaman internet? Because I guess that's what you're advocating for by knocking freedom of speech. Unless of course you are a socialist (its not real socialism) scum. I don't respect people (except wamens) in real life so I fail to see your logic on that point. I bear no ill will towards Eli. I couldn't care less that he's black. He could be indigo for all I care. I'm not going to call him a n1gg3r. But that is completely besides the point. First I fail to see why he is in the armed forces has any bearing to the conversation whatsoever, but I'll bite. But you do realize that you backed yourself into a corner because the armed forces defends the constitution and all its amendments, the first of which is freedom of speech? By being a marine and fighting towel heads and commies, he is actively fighting and killing to defend the right for anybody to call him a n1gg3r (again, not that I would, just saying that your logic is faulty as fuck). But we've gotten pretty off topic, youtu.be/xwdba9C2G14?t=8Again, this is the internet, and you have no right whatsoever to tell me or anybody else to have respect, be mature or not say n1gg3r. Sure you can suggest it but we don't have to listen whatsoever. Of course, this is a private server, so Clarky can do whatever he wants, I just think that banning the word would be more counter productive than helpful, not that any of my points have been made clear in this post as I'm cutting through Aras's faulty logic and false equivalencies. My argument has been made clear on Page 3. Hate to break it to you but you will be punished for being racist. Well I mean currently yes under the rules people will be punished for being racist thank you for pointing that out do you want a cookie do you think I don't know I wrote the fucking rule...but we're discussing it right now so that we don't need to be punished for being racist. That's why this thread is here. If somebody made a thread to make clog legal and I just went over and said "oh hate to break it to you but you will be punished for clogging" would not only be pretentious and rude but counterproductive. Of course you get banned for clog, that's why there's a thread discussing it retard. Hate to break it to you, but a 15 year old no mic's opinion doesn't matter.
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Post by Aras on Dec 3, 2018 12:11:20 GMT -5
This is not reddit as you said. This is a private server with Clarky's rules. Whats so hard to not say the n word? Do you need it to stay alive? I dont give a single shit if you use it in your clan. Its offensive when you are insulting a black person. Directly. Long story short, i am not going to throw insults at you because i think thats not needed. I instead eould like to offer you a cookie for writing a such developed counter argument. I am shocked! I loved the way you put your curse words to make your argument even more legit. I admire you. I hope your clan does as well. Wow!
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Post by Roy on Dec 3, 2018 12:14:38 GMT -5
Eat dirt
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Post by winkletwinkle on Dec 3, 2018 13:00:54 GMT -5
This is not reddit as you said. This is a private server with Clarky's rules. Whats so hard to not say the n word? Do you need it to stay alive? I dont give a single shit if you use it in your clan. Its offensive when you are insulting a black person. Directly. Long story short, i am not going to throw insults at you because i think thats not needed. I instead eould like to offer you a cookie for writing a such developed counter argument. I am shocked! I loved the way you put your curse words to make your argument even more legit. I admire you. I hope your clan does as well. Wow! add a few ,
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Post by pico on Dec 3, 2018 13:04:59 GMT -5
Since we are all equal as humans then Aras and it’s offensive to racially insult a black person, then can people still call me yellow belly rice eating monkey? Please explain the hypocrisy.
If you’re going to be PC then ban them all or ban none. Don’t be hypocritical.
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Post by nikkle on Dec 3, 2018 13:12:22 GMT -5
as much as i fucking hate to admit it after being one of the people most pissed off about the rules that limit speech, meli is right about the n word stuff. I honestly have not thought about how it could affect new people or youtubers coming to the server and potentially boosting pop. I like to say whatever i want and have others have the freedom to say whatever they want, but i also don't want this revival to end up like all the others, meaning it's just the same core old players who keep playing for a month or so while a few new players rotate out playing for 1-2 weeks before dying off due to boredom, irl stuff etc. When it's the same people over and over and over and they have been playing for a long time, it really starts to get old and stale because you already know, by and large, the gist of how every day will go. That's been my biggest gripe with NA PW/PK for the past multiple years, the predictability of every day of playing with the same maps, same players, same clans (even if they have different names, they still have the same players) and same layout of the day with 10-20 pop until 8:00 PM when it explodes to 150 for a big cancer war until 10:00 or so and everyone gets off. Basically, really long way of saying that while i disagree with the whole N word ban in a contextless void, when i look at it as it's harming the chances of new people, or as meli said, a big youtuber like pixelated apollo potentially making a video in the server and blowing up the playerbase. The problem with this entire argument is a simple fact being that the server tried banning the word. The problem with people constantly saying N***** was when it was banned. Most people would have rather said it because it was a banned word (which pw never did before) then say it when it was unbanned because it did not have any weight. There was no problem whatsoever with people saying it beforehand because no one really did say it beforehand. Furthermore, I love when we like to say something is a problem by coming up with a hypothetical situation that does not have any merit in happening but we consider it anyway. For example new people like pixelated apollo, people are acting like this is a new experience for him or the CTA community. The guy who made CTA try pw/pk before stopped doing it, they already had their server up, and they didn't like the current rule set and wanted a more constricted rp. It's not about "radical rightist trying to stop the libtards from taking over" which is the only argument meli and nikkle say but you are just giving power to a word that never had it in the first place. Who thought the best idea was in order to stop people from saying a word no one said on a daily basis was too out of nowhere ban it and say there will be "harsh repercussions". Furthermore, it isn't the word itself but it is the concept of banning a word. If you banned faggot I would still be having this discussion. You cant hold one word up to this pedigree because it has a history because guess what, all words have a history. As for pw/pk repeating itself, of course, it will do that if new people don't come to the mod. But are these people who played the mod for years really so naive to think that a word is a reason why. If we were going to get a new player base wouldn't we have gotten it when pk started to come out? If you want to change it up then change it up yourself. Contrary to popular belief mass censorship doesn't exactly entice people to play a server. Now there are some solutions to fixing this by maybe going to other mods and advertising. Maybe trying to figure out how to change up core gameplay than wasting time on pointless projects. Most of the problems with going over are that it is unstable and it will die within a month. Maybe clans shouldn't burn themselves out by doing an event every day and by choosing specific days. The point being there are other things to change. No new players and no new youtubers are not coming with banning N****. I'm sorry Meli/nikkle but the horde of people you suspected to see after banning the word isn't there. There are a lot of issues with PK/pw but banning specific words is not the option. I'm not saying everyone should go on pw/pk and say N*****. There are repercussions for saying that word or any other word as it is counted as an insult and you could be killed. But having these stupid rules that clarky set up is just mind boggling, to say the least. So, in conclusion, fix the gameplay and not blame it on some word and then use a hypothetical situation that doesn't work to back it up. TLDR: It's not a word but a continuing boring gameplay that killed the community. Who knew someone could say so much yet nothing at all. There is 0 objective argument to keep people from saying the N word. The only thing u can pull out ur ass is “but pw is toxic in other ways and there it was like this before and it was fine and uhhh pw is already fucked so no point in tryin.” Hedge the reason we mocked you was because up until this post your entire argument was completely based on the fundamentals of free speech and it was cringy. While it’s impressive that you were able to make the astonishing claim that doing this would not lead to a horde of people coming to pw, it is obviously not what we were expecting to happen. Now I agree the word shouldn’t be put on a pedestal but sadly it is. If your able to restrain yourself from saying it irl you should be fine not saying it in game. You and everyone else are just echoing the same argument of “PW is toxic in other ways so we shouldn’t bother fixing one aspect if we can’t fix them all.” The only thing I’ve heard that is compelling is what Roy, which was something along the lines of more people will be banned from this then new players will come in. But this sort of falls flat on its face when it’s super fucking easy to not say n3gg3r. We’ve already provided examples of people being effected by how toxic the word is. Many of my friends from native are turned off by it (and other reasons too) and Eli who was the leader of one of the larger factions was offended by it too. Bottom line is there is 0 argument to defend the wild use of it. Only shit ppl can say is try to explain why the problems with PW come from another source and to not bother limiting the N word. But I don’t think it’s a extreme claim to say that casuals are turned off by it. In b4 “Nikkle why are u so offended by this!” now I’m done writing fkn essays for this aids discussion. if ppl rly care that much about using it then rip
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Post by pico on Dec 3, 2018 13:15:47 GMT -5
nikkle why are you so offended by this
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Post by Aras on Dec 3, 2018 14:23:18 GMT -5
The problem with this entire argument is a simple fact being that the server tried banning the word. The problem with people constantly saying N***** was when it was banned. Most people would have rather said it because it was a banned word (which pw never did before) then say it when it was unbanned because it did not have any weight. There was no problem whatsoever with people saying it beforehand because no one really did say it beforehand. Furthermore, I love when we like to say something is a problem by coming up with a hypothetical situation that does not have any merit in happening but we consider it anyway. For example new people like pixelated apollo, people are acting like this is a new experience for him or the CTA community. The guy who made CTA try pw/pk before stopped doing it, they already had their server up, and they didn't like the current rule set and wanted a more constricted rp. It's not about "radical rightist trying to stop the libtards from taking over" which is the only argument meli and nikkle say but you are just giving power to a word that never had it in the first place. Who thought the best idea was in order to stop people from saying a word no one said on a daily basis was too out of nowhere ban it and say there will be "harsh repercussions". Furthermore, it isn't the word itself but it is the concept of banning a word. If you banned faggot I would still be having this discussion. You cant hold one word up to this pedigree because it has a history because guess what, all words have a history. As for pw/pk repeating itself, of course, it will do that if new people don't come to the mod. But are these people who played the mod for years really so naive to think that a word is a reason why. If we were going to get a new player base wouldn't we have gotten it when pk started to come out? If you want to change it up then change it up yourself. Contrary to popular belief mass censorship doesn't exactly entice people to play a server. Now there are some solutions to fixing this by maybe going to other mods and advertising. Maybe trying to figure out how to change up core gameplay than wasting time on pointless projects. Most of the problems with going over are that it is unstable and it will die within a month. Maybe clans shouldn't burn themselves out by doing an event every day and by choosing specific days. The point being there are other things to change. No new players and no new youtubers are not coming with banning N****. I'm sorry Meli/nikkle but the horde of people you suspected to see after banning the word isn't there. There are a lot of issues with PK/pw but banning specific words is not the option. I'm not saying everyone should go on pw/pk and say N*****. There are repercussions for saying that word or any other word as it is counted as an insult and you could be killed. But having these stupid rules that clarky set up is just mind boggling, to say the least. So, in conclusion, fix the gameplay and not blame it on some word and then use a hypothetical situation that doesn't work to back it up. TLDR: It's not a word but a continuing boring gameplay that killed the community. Who knew someone could say so much yet nothing at all. There is 0 objective argument to keep people from saying the N word. The only thing u can pull out ur ass is “but pw is toxic in other ways and there it was like this before and it was fine and uhhh pw is already fucked so no point in tryin.” Hedge the reason we mocked you was because up until this post your entire argument was completely based on the fundamentals of free speech and it was cringy. While it’s impressive that you were able to make the astonishing claim that doing this would not lead to a horde of people coming to pw, it is obviously not what we were expecting to happen. Now I agree the word shouldn’t be put on a pedestal but sadly it is. If your able to restrain yourself from saying it irl you should be fine not saying it in game. You and everyone else are just echoing the same argument of “PW is toxic in other ways so we shouldn’t bother fixing one aspect if we can’t fix them all.” The only thing I’ve heard that is compelling is what Roy, which was something along the lines of more people will be banned from this then new players will come in. But this sort of falls flat on its face when it’s super fucking easy to not say n3gg3r. We’ve already provided examples of people being effected by how toxic the word is. Many of my friends from native are turned off by it (and other reasons too) and Eli who was the leader of one of the larger factions was offended by it too. Bottom line is there is 0 argument to defend the wild use of it. Only shit ppl can say is try to explain why the problems with PW come from another source and to not bother limiting the N word. But I don’t think it’s a extreme claim to say that casuals are turned off by it. In b4 “Nikkle why are u so offended by this!” now I’m done writing fkn essays for this aids discussion. if ppl rly care that much about using it then rip I love you
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Post by Imperator Beowulf on Dec 3, 2018 14:49:29 GMT -5
Community's reputation --> Dead. Permanently.
Banning for a word --> I understand the point behind it, sensitivity etc. But this is the internet and policing this community for something like that would result in Ban-mania. In a perfect world maybe, but not here.
My Opinion --> I just want to make shitty shield-walls, bake bread and rant about roads. The reputation of the PW/PK community is, as Roy pointed out, very much tarnished and has very little to no chance of recovering. Many idealists keep preaching about attracting people to PK by altering the rules to create a less toxic community. Perhaps, but for better or for worse that toxicity has become a staple of the community, you'd more or less be trading one group for another. Overall, in this community people need thick skin, shielding pubs from something like that could work short term but it'd catch up one way or another.
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Post by nikkle on Dec 3, 2018 14:56:37 GMT -5
Community's reputation --> Dead. Permanently. Banning for a word --> I understand the point behind it, sensitivity etc. But this is the internet and policing this community for something like that would result in Ban-mania. In a perfect world maybe, but not here. My Opinion --> I just want to make shitty shield-walls, bake bread and rant about roads. The reputation of the PW/PK community is, as Roy pointed out, very much tarnished and has very little to no chance of recovering. Many idealists keep preaching about attracting people to PK by altering the rules to create a less toxic community. Perhaps, but for better or for worse that toxicity has become a staple of the community, you'd more or less be trading one group for another. Overall, in this community people need thick skin, shielding pubs from something like that could work short term but it'd catch up one way or another. ok but u still don’t provide an argument besides “community is fucked don’t bother lmao”. No one is saying banning the N word will lead to a new golden age lmao. And it won’t result in a “ban mania” because In the rules it says it’ll result in a fine and if it persists, a temp ban, and if someone is persisting I’m doing it then they clearly don’t give a fuck anyway
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Post by Imperator Beowulf on Dec 3, 2018 15:03:46 GMT -5
Community's reputation --> Dead. Permanently. Banning for a word --> I understand the point behind it, sensitivity etc. But this is the internet and policing this community for something like that would result in Ban-mania. In a perfect world maybe, but not here. My Opinion --> I just want to make shitty shield-walls, bake bread and rant about roads. The reputation of the PW/PK community is, as Roy pointed out, very much tarnished and has very little to no chance of recovering. Many idealists keep preaching about attracting people to PK by altering the rules to create a less toxic community. Perhaps, but for better or for worse that toxicity has become a staple of the community, you'd more or less be trading one group for another. Overall, in this community people need thick skin, shielding pubs from something like that could work short term but it'd catch up one way or another. ok but u still don’t provide an argument besides “community is fucked don’t bother lmao”. No one is saying banning the N word will lead to a new golden age lmao I don't provide an argument besides “community is fucked don’t bother lmao” because it is and I don't see the point in beating a dead horse.
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Post by hedge on Dec 3, 2018 16:02:12 GMT -5
The problem with this entire argument is a simple fact being that the server tried banning the word. The problem with people constantly saying N***** was when it was banned. Most people would have rather said it because it was a banned word (which pw never did before) then say it when it was unbanned because it did not have any weight. There was no problem whatsoever with people saying it beforehand because no one really did say it beforehand. Furthermore, I love when we like to say something is a problem by coming up with a hypothetical situation that does not have any merit in happening but we consider it anyway. For example new people like pixelated apollo, people are acting like this is a new experience for him or the CTA community. The guy who made CTA try pw/pk before stopped doing it, they already had their server up, and they didn't like the current rule set and wanted a more constricted rp. It's not about "radical rightist trying to stop the libtards from taking over" which is the only argument meli and nikkle say but you are just giving power to a word that never had it in the first place. Who thought the best idea was in order to stop people from saying a word no one said on a daily basis was too out of nowhere ban it and say there will be "harsh repercussions". Furthermore, it isn't the word itself but it is the concept of banning a word. If you banned faggot I would still be having this discussion. You cant hold one word up to this pedigree because it has a history because guess what, all words have a history. As for pw/pk repeating itself, of course, it will do that if new people don't come to the mod. But are these people who played the mod for years really so naive to think that a word is a reason why. If we were going to get a new player base wouldn't we have gotten it when pk started to come out? If you want to change it up then change it up yourself. Contrary to popular belief mass censorship doesn't exactly entice people to play a server. Now there are some solutions to fixing this by maybe going to other mods and advertising. Maybe trying to figure out how to change up core gameplay than wasting time on pointless projects. Most of the problems with going over are that it is unstable and it will die within a month. Maybe clans shouldn't burn themselves out by doing an event every day and by choosing specific days. The point being there are other things to change. No new players and no new youtubers are not coming with banning N****. I'm sorry Meli/nikkle but the horde of people you suspected to see after banning the word isn't there. There are a lot of issues with PK/pw but banning specific words is not the option. I'm not saying everyone should go on pw/pk and say N*****. There are repercussions for saying that word or any other word as it is counted as an insult and you could be killed. But having these stupid rules that clarky set up is just mind boggling, to say the least. So, in conclusion, fix the gameplay and not blame it on some word and then use a hypothetical situation that doesn't work to back it up. TLDR: It's not a word but a continuing boring gameplay that killed the community. Who knew someone could say so much yet nothing at all. There is 0 objective argument to keep people from saying the N word. The only thing u can pull out ur ass is “but pw is toxic in other ways and there it was like this before and it was fine and uhhh pw is already fucked so no point in tryin.” Hedge the reason we mocked you was because up until this post your entire argument was completely based on the fundamentals of free speech and it was cringy. While it’s impressive that you were able to make the astonishing claim that doing this would not lead to a horde of people coming to pw, it is obviously not what we were expecting to happen. Now I agree the word shouldn’t be put on a pedestal but sadly it is. If your able to restrain yourself from saying it irl you should be fine not saying it in game. You and everyone else are just echoing the same argument of “PW is toxic in other ways so we shouldn’t bother fixing one aspect if we can’t fix them all.” The only thing I’ve heard that is compelling is what Roy, which was something along the lines of more people will be banned from this then new players will come in. But this sort of falls flat on its face when it’s super fucking easy to not say n3gg3r. We’ve already provided examples of people being effected by how toxic the word is. Many of my friends from native are turned off by it (and other reasons too) and Eli who was the leader of one of the larger factions was offended by it too. Bottom line is there is 0 argument to defend the wild use of it. Only shit ppl can say is try to explain why the problems with PW come from another source and to not bother limiting the N word. But I don’t think it’s a extreme claim to say that casuals are turned off by it. In b4 “Nikkle why are u so offended by this!” now I’m done writing fkn essays for this aids discussion. if ppl rly care that much about using it then rip OK since you didn't read the essay and did not get the points I'll break it down for you. 1. Banning the word only made more people say it because of the words now heightened status. 2. The people defending it are not defending N****, but the principle behind it. We would be defending the word white nationalist if it got banned too. 3. You bring up real life and if the government did a national ban of the word N**** it would be said a lot more. You can not relate it to real life because the word was not banned in real life. 4. This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players while banning people for the horrible act of saying a word. Furthermore the real problems are within the gameplay which could be fixed with pk/pw itself which I layed out in the paragraph above. 5. You did say it actually did say it: gyazo.com/334a12fc08a65b32d1fb419208503849 and that statement itself is a blatant lie. I told you the real reason in the paragraph (if you bothered reading it). 6. Your first paragraph is talking about how you are trying to backtrack on trying to generalize people who want this repealed and then say that what I said was false. Although it was a hyperbole it is true if you again look at the gyazo or look back at your own lines. 7. You are saying another strawman argument by saying "pw is toxic and we shouldn't fix it". No one is saying that I agree that people who say that are wrong. But again I gave possible solutions to fixing the server that you looked over which is a huge trend in your write up. 8. Furthermore, you go back in a circle by saying "just don't say the word". It is the principle believe it or not and it isn't so straightforward. No one was saying N**** in all chat and local chat and if so it was a very minimal amount. It was treated like every other insult if you say it to someone in local chat you are killed nothing more. Now to say that we have to protect people(s) from words it just absurd. There are many options to stop blatant racism but banning a word just adds more fuel to the fire. Furthermore, Eli may have been offended but he never left and using vague native friends to justify the entire population is absurd. People have alternative reasons for playing PW/pk but the language is not one of them. It is easy defending your argument when you just talk about strawman arguments and not the real facts. If you didn't understand a specific one I put it in number order and tried to go right to the point.
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:13:32 GMT -5
Who knew someone could say so much yet nothing at all. There is 0 objective argument to keep people from saying the N word. The only thing u can pull out ur ass is “but pw is toxic in other ways and there it was like this before and it was fine and uhhh pw is already fucked so no point in tryin.” Hedge the reason we mocked you was because up until this post your entire argument was completely based on the fundamentals of free speech and it was cringy. While it’s impressive that you were able to make the astonishing claim that doing this would not lead to a horde of people coming to pw, it is obviously not what we were expecting to happen. Now I agree the word shouldn’t be put on a pedestal but sadly it is. If your able to restrain yourself from saying it irl you should be fine not saying it in game. You and everyone else are just echoing the same argument of “PW is toxic in other ways so we shouldn’t bother fixing one aspect if we can’t fix them all.” The only thing I’ve heard that is compelling is what Roy, which was something along the lines of more people will be banned from this then new players will come in. But this sort of falls flat on its face when it’s super fucking easy to not say n3gg3r. We’ve already provided examples of people being effected by how toxic the word is. Many of my friends from native are turned off by it (and other reasons too) and Eli who was the leader of one of the larger factions was offended by it too. Bottom line is there is 0 argument to defend the wild use of it. Only shit ppl can say is try to explain why the problems with PW come from another source and to not bother limiting the N word. But I don’t think it’s a extreme claim to say that casuals are turned off by it. In b4 “Nikkle why are u so offended by this!” now I’m done writing fkn essays for this aids discussion. if ppl rly care that much about using it then rip OK since you didn't read the essay and did not get the points I'll break it down for you. 1. Banning the word only made more people say it because of the words now heightened status. 2. The people defending it are not defending N****, but the principle behind it. We would be defending the word white nationalist if it got banned too. 3. You bring up real life and if the government did a national ban of the word N**** it would be said a lot more. You can not relate it to real life because the word was not banned in real life. 4. This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players while banning people for the horrible act of saying a word. Furthermore the real problems are within the gameplay which could be fixed with pk/pw itself which I layed out in the paragraph above. 5. You did say it actually did say it: gyazo.com/334a12fc08a65b32d1fb419208503849 and that statement itself is a blatant lie. I told you the real reason in the paragraph (if you bothered reading it). 6. Your first paragraph is talking about how you are trying to backtrack on trying to generalize people who want this repealed and then say that what I said was false. Although it was a hyperbole it is true if you again look at the gyazo or look back at your own lines. 7. You are saying another strawman argument by saying "pw is toxic and we shouldn't fix it". No one is saying that I agree that people who say that are wrong. But again I gave possible solutions to fixing the server that you looked over which is a huge trend in your write up. 8. Furthermore, you go back in a circle by saying "just don't say the word". It is the principle believe it or not and it isn't so straightforward. No one was saying N**** in all chat and local chat and if so it was a very minimal amount. It was treated like every other insult if you say it to someone in local chat you are killed nothing more. Now to say that we have to protect people(s) from words it just absurd. There are many options to stop blatant racism but banning a word just adds more fuel to the fire. Furthermore, Eli may have been offended but he never left and using vague native friends to justify the entire population is absurd. People have alternative reasons for playing PW/pk but the language is not one of them. It is easy defending your argument when you just talk about strawman arguments and not the real facts. If you didn't understand a specific one I put it in number order and tried to go right to the point. "This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players". lol how? I've been playing this mod longer than probably anyone who still gets on it now, it doesnt affect me. literally just dont say the fucking word in global and you wont get punished you dirty freaks. the rule set states you wont get banned unless you use it in global too much and even then its a temp ban, you can say it in local all you want but people have the right to murder you for it. also just grow the fuck up and dont say the word just like you dont randomly call someone a (word removed) irl, and before you go on your autist spree of "hurr its a game durr hurr *slurp* its not irl *slurp* hurr" it doesnt matter if its a game, it still affects people the exact same way it does irl, stop being a bunch of immature children and act your ages, because Im pretty sure you, your brother and all the people I banned for using the word are all over the age of 16 or very close to it. act like decent human beings you fucking mongoloid.
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