hedge
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Post by hedge on Dec 3, 2018 17:18:59 GMT -5
OK since you didn't read the essay and did not get the points I'll break it down for you. 1. Banning the word only made more people say it because of the words now heightened status. 2. The people defending it are not defending N****, but the principle behind it. We would be defending the word white nationalist if it got banned too. 3. You bring up real life and if the government did a national ban of the word N**** it would be said a lot more. You can not relate it to real life because the word was not banned in real life. 4. This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players while banning people for the horrible act of saying a word. Furthermore the real problems are within the gameplay which could be fixed with pk/pw itself which I layed out in the paragraph above. 5. You did say it actually did say it: gyazo.com/334a12fc08a65b32d1fb419208503849 and that statement itself is a blatant lie. I told you the real reason in the paragraph (if you bothered reading it). 6. Your first paragraph is talking about how you are trying to backtrack on trying to generalize people who want this repealed and then say that what I said was false. Although it was a hyperbole it is true if you again look at the gyazo or look back at your own lines. 7. You are saying another strawman argument by saying "pw is toxic and we shouldn't fix it". No one is saying that I agree that people who say that are wrong. But again I gave possible solutions to fixing the server that you looked over which is a huge trend in your write up. 8. Furthermore, you go back in a circle by saying "just don't say the word". It is the principle believe it or not and it isn't so straightforward. No one was saying N**** in all chat and local chat and if so it was a very minimal amount. It was treated like every other insult if you say it to someone in local chat you are killed nothing more. Now to say that we have to protect people(s) from words it just absurd. There are many options to stop blatant racism but banning a word just adds more fuel to the fire. Furthermore, Eli may have been offended but he never left and using vague native friends to justify the entire population is absurd. People have alternative reasons for playing PW/pk but the language is not one of them. It is easy defending your argument when you just talk about strawman arguments and not the real facts. If you didn't understand a specific one I put it in number order and tried to go right to the point. "This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players". lol how? I've been playing this mod longer than probably anyone who still gets on it now, it doesnt affect me. literally just dont say the fucking word in global and you wont get punished you dirty freaks. the rule set states you wont get banned unless you use it in global too much and even then its a temp ban, you can say it in local all you want but people have the right to murder you for it. also just grow the fuck up and dont say the word just like you dont randomly call someone a (word removed) irl, and before you go on your autist spree of "hurr its a game durr hurr *slurp* its not irl *slurp* hurr" it doesnt matter if its a game, it still affects people the exact same way it does irl, stop being a bunch of immature children and act your ages, because Im pretty sure you, your brother and all the people I banned for using the word are all over the age of 16 or very close to it. act like decent human beings you fucking mongoloid. It hurts the core player base and some new people because they werent brushed up on the newest anti speech laws and are subject to ban if they say anything. Furthermore, I already debunked all of your arguments in the paragraph. However, I think the best part of this argument is when you go on a crusade when you call people dirty freaks, fucking mongoloids and other slurs. I am fine with you saying that But my point being N**** is on the same level as any of the insults you threw at me so they should all be held at the same standard. Thank you for proving my point but if you are going to have an argument don't throw insults at someone. Again thank you for proving my point.
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mrbeefy9
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Post by mrbeefy9 on Dec 3, 2018 17:20:20 GMT -5
OK since you didn't read the essay and did not get the points I'll break it down for you. 1. Banning the word only made more people say it because of the words now heightened status. 2. The people defending it are not defending N****, but the principle behind it. We would be defending the word white nationalist if it got banned too. 3. You bring up real life and if the government did a national ban of the word N**** it would be said a lot more. You can not relate it to real life because the word was not banned in real life. 4. This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players while banning people for the horrible act of saying a word. Furthermore the real problems are within the gameplay which could be fixed with pk/pw itself which I layed out in the paragraph above. 5. You did say it actually did say it: gyazo.com/334a12fc08a65b32d1fb419208503849 and that statement itself is a blatant lie. I told you the real reason in the paragraph (if you bothered reading it). 6. Your first paragraph is talking about how you are trying to backtrack on trying to generalize people who want this repealed and then say that what I said was false. Although it was a hyperbole it is true if you again look at the gyazo or look back at your own lines. 7. You are saying another strawman argument by saying "pw is toxic and we shouldn't fix it". No one is saying that I agree that people who say that are wrong. But again I gave possible solutions to fixing the server that you looked over which is a huge trend in your write up. 8. Furthermore, you go back in a circle by saying "just don't say the word". It is the principle believe it or not and it isn't so straightforward. No one was saying N**** in all chat and local chat and if so it was a very minimal amount. It was treated like every other insult if you say it to someone in local chat you are killed nothing more. Now to say that we have to protect people(s) from words it just absurd. There are many options to stop blatant racism but banning a word just adds more fuel to the fire. Furthermore, Eli may have been offended but he never left and using vague native friends to justify the entire population is absurd. People have alternative reasons for playing PW/pk but the language is not one of them. It is easy defending your argument when you just talk about strawman arguments and not the real facts. If you didn't understand a specific one I put it in number order and tried to go right to the point. "This only hurts the player base because it turns its back on the core players". lol how? I've been playing this mod longer than probably anyone who still gets on it now, it doesnt affect me. literally just dont say the fucking word in global and you wont get punished you dirty freaks. the rule set states you wont get banned unless you use it in global too much and even then its a temp ban, you can say it in local all you want but people have the right to murder you for it. also just grow the fuck up and dont say the word just like you dont randomly call someone a (word removed) irl, and before you go on your autist spree of "hurr its a game durr hurr *slurp* its not irl *slurp* hurr" it doesnt matter if its a game, it still affects people the exact same way it does irl, stop being a bunch of immature children and act your ages, because Im pretty sure you, your brother and all the people I banned for using the word are all over the age of 16 or very close to it. act like decent human beings you fucking mongoloid. Imagine telling people to act like human beings but in the same breath call them dirty freaks and mongoloids. You realize how hypocritical you are being by saying that people are offended by in it real life so its alright for people to cry about it and try to change the rules on a video game, while, you are calling people "offensive" names. Me personally, I don't really take offense to what you say, however, the fact that you are being hypocritical while also trying to claim the moral high ground is amusing. edit: I wouldnt have gotten involved if you didnt @ me. You guys were already losing the arguement seems pointless to broaden the fight
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Post by π―πππππ πΏππππππ on Dec 3, 2018 17:21:09 GMT -5
Stop quoting two posts at a time just do the one that you are replying to not the reply of the reply it makes the conversation hard to follow. People already read what they said it is not necessary to clarify that you are replaying to them, trust me, they already know.
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:23:56 GMT -5
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hedge
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Post by hedge on Dec 3, 2018 17:29:31 GMT -5
When you start losing an argument so you post a grade C meme. #getwoke #gobroke
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:31:07 GMT -5
that moment when the autist bros have the exact same response just in different words, go away. also if you think "Dirty freaks" and "Mongoloids" are on the same level as "(word removed)" then you are some straight idjits. "we are losing the arguement" then bitch why is the rule in place and whatever you say isnt changing it you fucking ding dongs. You Lose. I Win. Good Day.
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:32:13 GMT -5
that moment when the autist bros have the exact same response just in different words, go away. also if you think "Dirty freaks" and "Mongoloids" are on the same level as "(word removed)" then you are some straight idjits. "we are losing the arguement" then bitch why is the rule in place and whatever you say isnt changing it you fucking ding dongs. You Lose. I Win. Good Day. thats Matts meme he wanted me to post it
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hedge
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Post by hedge on Dec 3, 2018 17:33:39 GMT -5
that moment when the autist bros have the exact same response just in different words, go away. also if you think "Dirty freaks" and "Mongoloids" are on the same level as "(word removed)" then you are some straight idjits. "we are losing the arguement" then bitch why is the rule in place and whatever you say isnt changing it you fucking ding dongs. You Lose. I Win. Good Day. We are all in the same ts sooo. They are at the same level. All these insults are on the same level. I doubt you could understand your own argument with what you are saying. Take a deep breath before you go on the internet. And no there is no ban in local chat now. It is treated as an insult. You should know these rules you were an admin....
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hedge
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Post by hedge on Dec 3, 2018 17:34:13 GMT -5
that moment when the autist bros have the exact same response just in different words, go away. also if you think "Dirty freaks" and "Mongoloids" are on the same level as "(word removed)" then you are some straight idjits. "we are losing the arguement" then bitch why is the rule in place and whatever you say isnt changing it you fucking ding dongs. You Lose. I Win. Good Day. thats Matts meme he wanted me to post it Matt would post it himself
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:36:23 GMT -5
lol I'll post the snap message gimme a sec
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:38:21 GMT -5
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hedge
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Post by hedge on Dec 3, 2018 17:41:22 GMT -5
Regardless of who told you it only adds to my point in which I correctly talk about the former bad rule. It's nice we had an admin that easily caves under peer pressure.
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:42:37 GMT -5
that moment when the autist bros have the exact same response just in different words, go away. also if you think "Dirty freaks" and "Mongoloids" are on the same level as "(word removed)" then you are some straight idjits. "we are losing the arguement" then bitch why is the rule in place and whatever you say isnt changing it you fucking ding dongs. You Lose. I Win. Good Day. We are all in the same ts sooo. They are at the same level. All these insults are on the same level. I doubt you could understand your own argument with what you are saying. Take a deep breath before you go on the internet. And no there is no ban in local chat now. It is treated as an insult. You should know these rules you were an admin.... I said the ban was in Global you fucking autist. Learn to read before you come back at me kiddo, take a breath yourself chief.
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Post by Pablo the Old on Dec 3, 2018 17:43:23 GMT -5
Regardless of who told you it only adds to my point in which I correctly talk about the former bad rule. It's nice we had an admin that easily caves under peer pressure. Im still an admin and I'll ban whoever I see use it in global so be careful sonny
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mrbeefy9
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Post by mrbeefy9 on Dec 3, 2018 17:43:28 GMT -5
that moment when the autist bros have the exact same response just in different words, go away. also if you think "Dirty freaks" and "Mongoloids" are on the same level as "(word removed)" then you are some straight idjits. "we are losing the arguement" then bitch why is the rule in place and whatever you say isnt changing it you fucking ding dongs. You Lose. I Win. Good Day. According to you, if someone is offended in real life by a word is totally valid for it to have rules against it in a game so why aren't they on the same level? All words are okay. Now, this is the part of your post where you start to lose track of what you are trying to say, so you just say ."I don't want to actually debate the merits of the rule because It doesn't have any so I will just say that I win."
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